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36C3 - The ecosystem is moving

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Privacy, surveillance & cybercrimeDistributed systemsCryptography

What it is

Moxie Marlinspike's 36C3 talk examines why distributed and decentralized technology is hard to build into consumer products, from the perspective of developing Signal. It argues that ecosystems move slowly and federation causes problems.

Why Hacker News recommends it

Cited in decentralization and federation debates as the key talk on the practical challenges, though some found it defeatist.

  • 2 people recommended it
  • 2 different months
  • 0 strong recommendations
  • first 2020, last 2026

What HN commenters said

  1. “A talk by Moxie at CCC deals with this exact question.”

    Moxie on challenges for decentralized technologies.

    seanieb, 2021-11 · Recommendation · in “Telegram Ad Platform”

  2. “There's a great CCC presentation by Moxie (Signal originator) on that”

    Moxie's talk on decentralization.

    blfr, 2025-01 · Recommendation · in “Why Twitter is such a big deal (2009)”

Excerpts from Hacker News comments, linked to the originals. Summaries and labels were written by a language model from those comments.

Topics: signal, federation, moxie marlinspike, messaging, privacy

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